[KI-LC] For LC Review and Comment - Draft KI Email List Policy v0.2

Tue Jun 16 06:26:52 PDT 2009

Kenji -

The status is that I have an action item from the last meeting to take
another pass at the email policy and circulate it.

I should be able to tackle it this week.  I hope that works for you.

Cheers,
Trent

Kenji Takahashi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So what happened to this policy?  Maybe we could post the latest
> version on the LC wiki.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenji
>
> J. Trent Adams wrote:
>> Ken -
>>
>> I agree with your in-line note on the need for definition alignment.  If
>> we're going to make this a meaningful policy that people will understand
>> as it relates to the operation of the groups, we need to be careful when
>> selecting terms.
>>
>> I was pleased to see that it looks like you agree with most of the
>> suggested edits (pending the definition conundrum, of course).  I do
>> concede that you're right about my mistakenly inserting language related
>> to IPR in the LC discussion list section.  I agree it should be excised.
>>
>> A more general note, though, is in regard to readability.  If the
>> audience for this policy is really the participant (and not the
>> participant's phalanx of legal eagles), I humbly suggest it be rewritten
>> in vernacular.  I believe we can accept the loss of precision,
>> especially if the definitions are well-aligned.
>>
>> Basically, if it's written in a way that's not accessible, it won't be
>> read.  If it's not read, it won't be obeyed.  If it's not obeyed, people
>> may get bent out of shape when it's enforced.  People who are bent out
>> of shape have a regrettable habit of Tweeting a #fail.
>>
>> All -
>>
>> If there's enough agreement (or lack of disagreement) with this
>> approach, I could take another whack at it.  Any other suggestions?
>>
>> - Trent
>>
>>
>> Salzberg, Kenneth M wrote:
>>  
>>> A few comments /suggestions enclosed.
>>> With respect to the representative approval, I tried to give a bit
>>> of explanation.
>>> With respect to the two version notion, my thought is to avoid this
>>> if at all possible.
>>> My belief is that this is a policy doc and is made to be read by
>>> "human beings", not lawyers.
>>>
>>> Ken Salzberg,  Technology Manager
>>> Integrated Platforms Research, Intel Labs
>>> ken.salzberg at intel.com   503.264.8276   JF2-58
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org
>>> [mailto:lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of J. Trent Adams
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:27 PM
>>> To: LC at kantarainitiative.org
>>> Subject: Re: [KI-LC] For LC Review and Comment - Draft KI Email List
>>> Policy v0.2
>>>
>>> All -
>>>
>>> Now that Ken and Mathew are on board, I wanted to ask them to provide
>>> any additional comments or clarifications on the proposed email policy.
>>> Hopefully, once they've had a chance to share some thoughts, we can
>>> work
>>> together to present the LC position.
>>>
>>> Also, as the BoT have requested we try to close this out relatively
>>> soon, I've added it as an agenda item for next week's teleconference.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Trent
>>>
>>>
>>> J. Trent Adams wrote:
>>>      
>>>> Crew -
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what you guys think, but I've attached a copy of the
>>>> proposed policy with my mark-up.
>>>>
>>>> Any other thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> - Trent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joni Brennan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Hello Leadership Council,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find attached a draft email policy for your review and
>>>>> comments.  This policy is also currently in review in the BoT.  There
>>>>> has been discussion on the BoT list calling for a clarification of
>>>>> process or provisions that would:
>>>>>
>>>>> - allow for additional cross communication between the full BoT
>>>>> and LC
>>>>> group
>>>>> - allow for an additional channel(s) that participants may use to
>>>>> share feedback with the LC and BoT.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you'd like to review the BoT recent discussions on this item
>>>>> please
>>>>> visit:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/kantara-trustees/topics
>>>>>
>>>>> Or more directly to this thread: http://bit.ly/17tj1y
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, please feel free to share any feedback you may have on the
>>>>> list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Joni
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Joni Brennan
>>>>> IEEE-ISTO
>>>>> Liberty Alliance Project
>>>>> Director of Operations
>>>>> voice:+1 732-226-4223
>>>>> email: joni @ projectliberty.org <http://projectliberty.org>
>>>>> email: joni @ ieee-isto.org <http://ieee-isto.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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