[KI-LC] Group "Join" Form

[Brett McDowell]

Thank you for the comprehensive feedback Trent.  Some of your changes  
are direct changes to text provided by counsel and therefore will  
require a legal review before we could entertain them for the form  
that's going into production today.  Some of your other changes would  
introduce higher risk of user error (the selection of multiple groups  
for example) which concerns me.  And a few other changes actually have  
operational consequences that I need to consider.

So, we are going to put the form we have voted on at 10am this morning  
into production today but all of your suggestions will be reviewed  
right away and perhaps we'll roll-out a v2.0 before the week is out.   
But that won't make any commitments we receive between now and then  
void.  We start taking legal commitments today (as soon as we hear  
from Joni that the form is in production -- which will go to the  
community@ list.

Brett McDowell  |  +1.413.652.1248  |  http://KantaraInitiative.org

On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:50 AM, J. Trent Adams wrote:

> Brett -
>
> First of all, I'm not sure who created the HTML for this form, but  
> it's
> relatively old school. It relies heavily on tables rather than  
> cascading
> style sheets, and as such will be less flexible. I'd suggest having
> someone bring it up to XHTML standards.
>
> That being said, I've attached is a modified version of the form (in  
> the
> same vein) that illustrate my suggested changes:
>
> 1. Improved information architecture for readability.
> 2. Broken out the "Company" and "Affiliation" entries
> into separate lines to clarify what's being asked.
> 3. Changed the WG/DG options into a selection box to
> allow for multiple selections in one pass.
> 4. Added headings to the IPR and Authority sections
> to simplify readibility.
> 5. Added introductory text clarifying the process of
> submission for the form.
> 6. Tweaked some of the text for comprehension.
>
> Beyond that, I'd suggest the following additions to the form:
>
> A. Include client-side validation (and matching server-side) for:
> i. All fields being filled out (with exception B)
> ii. Email address validation of: syntax and MX validity
> B. Client-side validation should allow for the "Company"
> field being left blank if (4) is set to "Individual"
> C. Remember all filled/selected items upon validation failure
> D. Add clarifying text to the receipt page with information
> on how / when their application will be accepted.
>
> I know I'm already late with my response, and I'm sure I've missed
> something (and could have suggested better solutions). I hope this  
> helps
> us move forward, though.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Trent
>
>
> Brett McDowell wrote:
>> In the Board of Trustees call yesterday I took an action to have some
>> revisions made to the online "join" form and circulate the revised,
>> legally reviewed form to both the LC and BoT for final review. The
>> revised form is now online here:
>>
>> http://signup.kantarainitiative.org/
>>
>> (note: we'll have a version of this with the group choice already
>> filled out located on each WG & DG page just for user convenience)
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any feedback on this final proposed
>> form prior to Monday 10:00am EDT when the BoT Officers will meet and
>> make a decision about putting this into production.
>>
>> P.S.
>> Feel free to test this and go through the process without any legal
>> binding commitment between now and Monday 10:00am EDT because all the
>> data we receive will be destroyed prior to putting it into production
>> when we will be linking to the form from the appropriate pages on our
>> web site.
>>
>> Have a nice weekend.
>>
>> Brett McDowell | +1.413.652.1248 | http://KantaraInitiative.org
>>
>>
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>
> -- 
> J. Trent Adams
> =jtrentadams
>
> Outreach Specialist, Trust & Identity
> Internet Society
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>
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> o) 703-439-2149
>
>
> Participation Application Form
> Please fill out this form to participate in Kantara Initiative Work  
> Groups (WG) or Discussion Groups (DG). You will need to fill out  
> this form for each WG or DG in which you would like to participate.  
> Your participation application will be reviewed for completeness and  
> you will be contacted when it is accepted.
>
> NOTE: All fields of this form are REQUIRED.
> 1.	Name:	
> 2.	Email:	
> 3.	Company:	
> 4.	Affiliation:	Company |   Individual
> NOTE: If you are filling out this application as part of your job,  
> please check the "Company" box. Otherwise, if you are self-employed  
> or not doing this as part of your job, this application is for you  
> as an individual and you should check the "Individual" box.
> 5.	Request to participate in:
> Please select one or more Work Groups (WG) or Discussion Groups (DG):
>
> 6.	Intelectual Property Rights: I hereby agree to the Kantara  
> Initiative IPR Policy Option as designated in the Kantara Initiative  
> Work Group and Discussion Group charter(s) selected in item 5.
>  - I Agree
> 7.	Authority Acknowledgement: If this request is being made by an  
> employee of a company that is not a Member of Kantara Initiative  
> [See: Member Note Below], you acknowledge that you have the  
> authority to execute this Group Participation Agreement on behalf of  
> your company.
>  - I Agree
> [Captcha Image]
> Please enter the characters and numbers from the image above:
>
> Member Note: If this request is being made by an employee of a  
> company that is a Member of Kantara Initiative, this request will be  
> sent to the primary representative for authorization.

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