[KI-LC] Kantara Blog
Paul Madsen
paulmadsen at rogers.com
Mon Jun 22 15:08:10 PDT 2009
For myself, I would find it difficult to try to decide whether a
particular flash of 'insight' should be sent to the Kantara blog or my own.
Separately, I suggest it is a mistake for KI to try to over control the
'message'. We have experts to help us fine tine, I'd hope the KI blog
wasn't overly (or overtly) managed.
paul
Brett McDowell wrote:
> I think we are only talking about aggregating a subset of blog posts
> from the actual Kantara WG itself, vs. a collection of individual
> bloggers. So the (c) is a known issue and won't vary too widely like
> it might if we were aggregating from the wild.
>
> That said, I'm not sure aggregating is the best policy here. To your
> point Trent, the main blog is a key asset of the organization and
> should receive appropriate oversight from an editorial team committed
> to keeping it current and accurate. Anything suggesting a "set it and
> forget it" approach concerns me. I'd rather see people named to an
> oversight team and know that they are either writing, editing, and/or
> collecting posts from the community to highlight. It seems this is
> one area where we need an investment in hands-on ownership vs.
> filtering and syndicating.
>
> Anyone have thoughts on this "elbow grease" approach?
>
> Brett McDowell | +1.413.652.1248 | http://KantaraInitiative.org
>
> On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:55 AM, J. Trent Adams wrote:
>
>> Joni -
>>
>> I don't know if it's an issue... but say that Paul's blog has a footer
>> that says he reserves all rights via copyright. Then, if the KI Blog
>> aggregates and redistributes them with another license, I'm just not
>> sure how that works.
>>
>> YMMV,
>> Trent
>>
>>
>> Joni Brennan wrote:
>>> Thanks Trent. I hope to here more today from our IT support regarding
>>> our abilities to fill this use case. You do raise an intrested point
>>> regarding the IPR policy of the WG. I hadn't taken that in to account
>>> but I believe all of the 3 available licenses today do allow for a
>>> blog post to go out with out a hinderance of IPR reviews unless that
>>> post was actually a release. But I don't see us putting release
>>> materials on the blog but rather announcements and news that might
>>> suport a release. Agree?
>>>
>>> thx!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:50 AM, J. Trent Adams <jtrentadams at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All -
>>>
>>> I agree that Paul's suggestion would be useful, as long as we're
>>> able to
>>> aggregate only those posts that match the classified criteria.
>>> I'm not
>>> a fan of aggregating every post made by the participants ala Planet
>>> Identity.
>>>
>>> Also, we may need to make sure that the copyright of the original
>>> posts
>>> allows for the aggregation. For example, if the KI Blog is
>>> released as
>>> CC A-SA 3.0, it might make sense that the original post carry the
>>> same
>>> license.
>>>
>>> - Trent
>>>
>>>
>>> Joni Brennan wrote:
>>>> I know our aggregator would pick up our WG/DG blog entries. But I
>>>> don't know if it's possible that the central KI blog will aggretate
>>>> our WG/DG blogs. The main blog is run on WordPress and the WG/DG
>>>> blogs would be run on our conflunce macro.
>>>>
>>>> I'll ask our developer if we could put in some magic to make that
>>>> possible - I agree it would be the best scenario possible.
>>>>
>>>> thx!
>>>>
>>>> 2009/6/21 Colin Wallis <Colin.Wallis at dia.govt.nz
>>> <mailto:Colin.Wallis at dia.govt.nz>
>>>> <mailto:Colin.Wallis at dia.govt.nz <mailto:Colin.Wallis at dia.govt.nz>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 Paul.
>>>> On the face of it, that seems less work for all concerned..
>>>>
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>>> <mailto:lc-bounces at kantarainitiative.org>>] On Behalf Of Paul Madsen
>>>> Sent: Monday, 22 June 2009 8:37 a.m.
>>>> To: Joni Brennan
>>>> Cc: LC at kantarainitiative.org
>>> <mailto:LC at kantarainitiative.org> <mailto:LC at kantarainitiative.org
>>> <mailto:LC at kantarainitiative.org>>; J.
>>>> Trent Adams
>>>> Subject: Re: [KI-LC] Kantara Blog
>>>>
>>>> Have we considered the possibility of the Kantara blog simply
>>>> aggregating suitably tagged posts from our own existing blogs?
>>>>
>>>> paul
>>>>
>>>> Joni Brennan wrote:
>>>>> We could have categories for each group (just thinking that
>>>> might be a
>>>>> quick logical way we'd map the topics). We'd have to create
>>>> accounts
>>>>> for each LC member and manage the provisioning of those
>>> accounts.
>>>>> Rather than us creating accounts for all LC members could we
>>>> work from
>>>>> the other direction and ask which LC members want access
>>> to the KI
>>>>> blog? Then we'd create and manage accounts for those who send
>>>> back a
>>>>> confirmation.
>>>>>
>>>>> We could add a step to the acceptance / approval process where
>>>> we ask
>>>>> the new members if they'd like access as they come on board.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Joni
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:09 AM, J. Trent Adams
>>>> <jtrentadams at gmail.com <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>>
>>>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Britta Glade wrote:
>>>>>> I was thinking the same thing. However, each DG and WG
>>>> also has its
>>>>>> very own "news blog" section (check your areas--you'll
>>>> see that
>>>>> as one
>>>>>> of your pre-set sections). When this was set up, the
>>>> thinking was
>>>>>> that this was a means for each group to provide regular
>>>> updates on
>>>>>> what's going on in a blog format. This would then be
>>>>> consolidated and
>>>>>> highlighted in the general blog as well as in a regular
>>>> newsletter
>>>>>> that we are working on too (ie. means to get specific
>>>> info as well as
>>>>>> consolidated info). Does that work?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this is a workable hack, but don't personally
>>>> believe that this
>>>>> fits the bill as I'd imagine it. The high-level
>>> visibility
>>>> of the
>>>>> Kantara Blog is what's more valuable to promoting the
>>>> specific work
>>>>> product agendas. It's likely that more people will
>>> see this
>>>> than the
>>>>> Confluence blogs per group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, it looks like Britta is the author of Robin's posts.
>>>> Even though
>>>>> his name's in the text, it's not tagged as the author in a
>>>> common way
>>>>> (meaning that some indexing services won't recognize it).
>>>>>
>>>>>> I suppose alternatively we could have different
>>>> categories on the
>>>>>> general blog that correspond to the different
>>>> work/discussion areas
>>>>>> and it would be sortable that way. Joni may have
>>> more to
>>>> add here as
>>>>>> well.....
>>>>>
>>>>> This appears a more useful idea than what we have now, but
>>>> the question
>>>>> is how we feed the posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Trent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --b.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:49 AM, J. Trent Adams
>>>>> <jtrentadams at gmail.com <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>>
>>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jtrentadams at gmail.com>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would it be reasonable to request that each
>>> member of
>>>> the LC
>>>>> be given
>>>>>> author access to the Kantara Blog? By virtue
>>> of each LC
>>>>> member being
>>>>>> the leader of a WG or DG, this appears to be a
>>>> reasonable way for
>>>>>> projects to get their message out in addition
>>> to the
>>>>> community and
>>>>>> announce lists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Trent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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