[KI-LC] Group "Join" Form

[J. Trent Adams]

Roger M. -

This appears to be a great clarification and streamlining of the process
we were trying to define.  I definitely appreciate the time and effort
you put into carefully preserving the spirit of the prior work, while
also improving it.

My nits are so minor I feel embarrassed even bringing them up:

 1. The term "Intellectual Property Rights" is
     introduced earlier than the acronym was
     parenthetically defined.  Perhaps moving up the
     acronym to the first instance?

 2. The term "Follower" is now only referenced in
     the second bullet of Section (6).  Perhaps it makes
     sense to eliminate the term from the Definitions
     Section (2) and insert the meaning in (6)?

 3. If we're leveraging defined terms (e.g. Member,
     Participant, etc.) from other Controlling
     Documents, do we need to formally reference
     them in some way? Perhaps by including them
     in the Definitions Section (2), linking a reference
     to the Bylaws and/or Operating Procedures as
     appropriate?

 4. In the same vein, if we're referencing externally-
     defined terms, do we need to include the term
     "Participant of a Group" in this document?  This
     seems close enough to "Participant" as defined
     in 1.13 of the Bylaws that perhaps we can remove
     the qualifying "of a Group" so they're equivalent?
     Or is there a subtle difference I'm missing?

Let me know what you suggest.

Thanks again,
Trent


Roger Martin wrote:
> I have spent some time reviewing the "Groups Email Discussion List
> Policy" draft and have rewritten it in what I believe to be an easier
> to understand and more comprehensive format.
>
> I have attached my draft which is based on the following comments and
> rationale:
>
>    1. The Policy needs to address both (1) Joining a Group as a
>       Participant and (2) Subscribing to a List as a Follower.  In the
>       current draft these two concepts were intertwined and seemed to
>       be fairly confusing.  I have attempted to split these two
>       concepts out into separate sections to the extent possible.
>
>    2. The introduction of the term "Contributor" is not needed since
>       "Participant", which is already defined in the Bylaws, is
>       sufficient.  I have deleted usage of "Contributor".  If we wish
>       to differentiate between Participants who do and do not actually
>       contribute postings to the Group List, then the term may be
>       useful, but personally I do not believe we should be encouraging
>       the concept of being a "passive" participant in a Group by not
>       contributing anything.
>
>    3. I propose that all Participants in a Group be automatically
>       Subscribed to the Group List.  If a Member has additional
>       representatives who join a Group then they may need to
>       Subscribe, but in my opinion the roster of Participants in a
>       Group should automatically be included on the Group List. 
>       Likewise for the BoT and LC lists, those holding a seat on
>       either body should be automatically subscribed to both Lists.
>
> I have made other changes to the text as I rearranged it, but I did
> not intentionally change the meaning of the existing text except as
> outlined above.
>
> I apologize that I do not have the document properly formatted, but I
> have run out of time and will be in an offsite meeting all day
> tomorrow.  As noted in an earlier email, I do not have edit permission
> on the online version of the document.  I am including it as a PDF and
> MSWORD file.
>
> I am sending it in its current state for consideration and discussion
> as appropriate.
>
>     ...rogerM
>
>
>
> Roger Martin wrote:
>> Since I do not have "edit" privileges to the "Groups Email Discussion
>> List Policy" and because I feel that these issues should be discussed
>> by the entire list, I was going to posting my recommended changes
>> (and rationale) to the LC and BoT lists in an email.
>>
>> However, after spending some time on rewriting the policy, I have
>> decided to draft a new version.
>>
>> One of the primary difficulties is that while the title of this draft
>> policy is "Groups Email Discussion List Policy", it actually also
>> includes, and to some degree confuses, the policy about joining a WG
>> or DG. 
>>
>> As a result, I am going to propose restructuring it and renaming it
>> to be "Policy for Joining Groups and Group Mailing Lists".
>>
>> I will post it for consideration as soon as I have completed the
>> redrafting of the document.
>>
>>     ....rogerM
>>
>>
>>
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