[KI-LC] [BoT] Group "Join" Form
Joni Brennan
joni at ieee-isto.org
Tue Jun 30 07:51:31 PDT 2009
Hello,
I would like to add a provision to section 5 stating that, in addition to
the staff layer of management, ONE officer from each WG/DG will be
designated as a list moderator. This could be the Chair, Vice-Chair or
Secretary from each group.
Or we could decided that one of those players will always = a list
moderator. Perhaps Trent can weigh in on which WG/DG officer would be the
best person to fill this role.
Thanks,
Joni
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:34 AM, J. Trent Adams <adams at isoc.org> wrote:
> Roger M. -
>
> This appears to be a great clarification and streamlining of the process
> we were trying to define. I definitely appreciate the time and effort
> you put into carefully preserving the spirit of the prior work, while
> also improving it.
>
> My nits are so minor I feel embarrassed even bringing them up:
>
> 1. The term "Intellectual Property Rights" is
> introduced earlier than the acronym was
> parenthetically defined. Perhaps moving up the
> acronym to the first instance?
>
> 2. The term "Follower" is now only referenced in
> the second bullet of Section (6). Perhaps it makes
> sense to eliminate the term from the Definitions
> Section (2) and insert the meaning in (6)?
>
> 3. If we're leveraging defined terms (e.g. Member,
> Participant, etc.) from other Controlling
> Documents, do we need to formally reference
> them in some way? Perhaps by including them
> in the Definitions Section (2), linking a reference
> to the Bylaws and/or Operating Procedures as
> appropriate?
>
> 4. In the same vein, if we're referencing externally-
> defined terms, do we need to include the term
> "Participant of a Group" in this document? This
> seems close enough to "Participant" as defined
> in 1.13 of the Bylaws that perhaps we can remove
> the qualifying "of a Group" so they're equivalent?
> Or is there a subtle difference I'm missing?
>
> Let me know what you suggest.
>
> Thanks again,
> Trent
>
>
> Roger Martin wrote:
> > I have spent some time reviewing the "Groups Email Discussion List
> > Policy" draft and have rewritten it in what I believe to be an easier
> > to understand and more comprehensive format.
> >
> > I have attached my draft which is based on the following comments and
> > rationale:
> >
> > 1. The Policy needs to address both (1) Joining a Group as a
> > Participant and (2) Subscribing to a List as a Follower. In the
> > current draft these two concepts were intertwined and seemed to
> > be fairly confusing. I have attempted to split these two
> > concepts out into separate sections to the extent possible.
> >
> > 2. The introduction of the term "Contributor" is not needed since
> > "Participant", which is already defined in the Bylaws, is
> > sufficient. I have deleted usage of "Contributor". If we wish
> > to differentiate between Participants who do and do not actually
> > contribute postings to the Group List, then the term may be
> > useful, but personally I do not believe we should be encouraging
> > the concept of being a "passive" participant in a Group by not
> > contributing anything.
> >
> > 3. I propose that all Participants in a Group be automatically
> > Subscribed to the Group List. If a Member has additional
> > representatives who join a Group then they may need to
> > Subscribe, but in my opinion the roster of Participants in a
> > Group should automatically be included on the Group List.
> > Likewise for the BoT and LC lists, those holding a seat on
> > either body should be automatically subscribed to both Lists.
> >
> > I have made other changes to the text as I rearranged it, but I did
> > not intentionally change the meaning of the existing text except as
> > outlined above.
> >
> > I apologize that I do not have the document properly formatted, but I
> > have run out of time and will be in an offsite meeting all day
> > tomorrow. As noted in an earlier email, I do not have edit permission
> > on the online version of the document. I am including it as a PDF and
> > MSWORD file.
> >
> > I am sending it in its current state for consideration and discussion
> > as appropriate.
> >
> > ...rogerM
> >
> >
> >
> > Roger Martin wrote:
> >> Since I do not have "edit" privileges to the "Groups Email Discussion
> >> List Policy" and because I feel that these issues should be discussed
> >> by the entire list, I was going to posting my recommended changes
> >> (and rationale) to the LC and BoT lists in an email.
> >>
> >> However, after spending some time on rewriting the policy, I have
> >> decided to draft a new version.
> >>
> >> One of the primary difficulties is that while the title of this draft
> >> policy is "Groups Email Discussion List Policy", it actually also
> >> includes, and to some degree confuses, the policy about joining a WG
> >> or DG.
> >>
> >> As a result, I am going to propose restructuring it and renaming it
> >> to be "Policy for Joining Groups and Group Mailing Lists".
> >>
> >> I will post it for consideration as soon as I have completed the
> >> redrafting of the document.
> >>
> >> ....rogerM
> >>
> >>
> >>
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